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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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Wanderer wrote:- When trying to create a new database, if the database exists, RC just reports that it exists and stops instead of asking whether you wish to overwrite the database (as one would expect).
Yes, and as it is not critical, I will keep this for the next version. :P
If you want to keep the same name, you can do an 'update' instead of a new. 'update' will also keep your settings and roms paths.
Right. I tried it and it works almost fine! :) Only one thing is not done. The name of the database that exists in the "datafile" tree branch is not updated. Closing and reopening RC does not help, the old name is still shown.
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Wanderer wrote:- I just created a new database from mame 0.124a. Before having a chance to add a rom path, i noticed that at the status bar it is reported that i have one green and three yellow roms! In the database filters i have set RC to show only green and yellow roms. Opening the "All games (flat)" branch, there are three roms and a bios in there in yellow color, all of them containing bad dumps! This looks like a bug.
It is correct.
mac2bios contains 2 bad dumped bioses roms which can be created by romcenter.
comebaby contains a chd and a rom. The chd is missing, but the rom can also be created by romcenter (bad dump) -> yellow because partially available.
Same for ddrja and ddrjb.
I see. It is a little puzzling but i get it. While testing this though, i found something which should not happen. Even without having opened any rom path, when clicking on "rom files", some of the buttons in the button bar are enabled as if a path existed. There, the user is able to click on "fix" which actually starts the fix process but it is unclear what RC is doing in that case. Perhaps it creates the bad dumps but where does it store them?
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Wanderer wrote:- When some roms are missing from a bios zip file, the bios under the "bios files" database branch is shown in red color. Wouldn't yellow be more proper? It could perhaps be red if no roms existed at all (no zip file) and yellow if some roms existed but some were missing.
Like in rc2 ? I think about the icons color, and, with bios, samples, chd, roms and merged icons, I decided to do it that way. It is more clear and there was not enough differences between a yellow and red icon in rc2, in both cases, you need to download the ro, again. Now, if one rom is missing, it is red. If one of above rom 'category' is green (ie all samples are available for example), the game is yellow. It means you need to download something, but not all file. Maybe just bios, or main set, or chd.
Aha, now i see the logic behind it. Yes, this is logical in roms branches, where there may be an existing "original" rom or an existing bios associated with a rom, but in the bioses branch where there are no other associated files with them? If some roms exist in a bios but some others are missing, shouldn't it be yellow denoting that "you need to download something, but not all file"?

Anyway, this is a matter of definition. I think the logic behind that is rather complicated for plain users to follow. Personally, i mostly care about the colors in the "rom path" branch but for some reason, the red color in bioses with some (not all) missing roms seemed a little inconsistent to me.
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Wanderer wrote:- It would be nice to be able to see the number of contained roms of database branches (i.e. "Original", "Clones, etc) when clicking on them. Perhaps in the space above the right list, where also the rom paths totals are shown...
This number is available in the main status bar.
At first i assumed i had gone blind but that's not the case. Remember the bug where RC window was maximized but when closing and reopening RC, the window didn't appear at the top of the screen? It's back again. Funny though, it happens in a WinXP SP2 PC, i'm looking at it right now but i'm not so sure it happened in my other PC (Win2K) yesterday.
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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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Wanderer wrote:Even without having opened any rom path, when clicking on "rom files", some of the buttons in the button bar are enabled as if a path existed. There, the user is able to click on "fix" which actually starts the fix process but it is unclear what RC is doing in that case. Perhaps it creates the bad dumps but where does it store them?
Fixing when the focus is on 'rom files' will fix all roms folders. Bad dumps are stored in the path being fixed
Wanderer wrote:Aha, now i see the logic behind it. Yes, this is logical in roms branches, where there may be an existing "original" rom or an existing bios associated with a rom, but in the bioses branch where there are no other associated files with them? If some roms exist in a bios but some others are missing, shouldn't it be yellow denoting that "you need to download something, but not all file"?
It would be inconsistent with other files/games. And you won't download one particular rom in bios, you will download the complete bios again.
Wanderer wrote:At first i assumed i had gone blind but that's not the case. Remember the bug where RC window was maximized but when closing and reopening RC, the window didn't appear at the top of the screen? It's back again. Funny though, it happens in a WinXP SP2 PC, i'm looking at it right now but i'm not so sure it happened in my other PC (Win2K) yesterday.
I never meet this problem, and I'm working on vista and xp pro. I will try to find someting on the net. Does it happen with other app ?
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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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RomCenter wrote:
Wanderer wrote:Even without having opened any rom path, when clicking on "rom files", some of the buttons in the button bar are enabled as if a path existed. There, the user is able to click on "fix" which actually starts the fix process but it is unclear what RC is doing in that case. Perhaps it creates the bad dumps but where does it store them?
Fixing when the focus is on 'rom files' will fix all roms folders. Bad dumps are stored in the path being fixed
Yes, but when you have no rom path opened, shouldn't "fix" and all other buttons be disabled even when you click on "rom files"? Right now it is not disabled and you can click on it. The fix process starts normally. It probably does nothing but it leaves you with a sense of uncertainty ("why did it start since i have no open path?" or "did it 'fix' anything and if yes, what?")
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Wanderer wrote:Aha, now i see the logic behind it. Yes, this is logical in roms branches, where there may be an existing "original" rom or an existing bios associated with a rom, but in the bioses branch where there are no other associated files with them? If some roms exist in a bios but some others are missing, shouldn't it be yellow denoting that "you need to download something, but not all file"?
It would be inconsistent with other files/games. And you won't download one particular rom in bios, you will download the complete bios again.
As i said, it's a matter of definition. Since you designed RC, you know better how you've defined things. I thought it might be something you had missed. :)
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Wanderer wrote:At first i assumed i had gone blind but that's not the case. Remember the bug where RC window was maximized but when closing and reopening RC, the window didn't appear at the top of the screen? It's back again. Funny though, it happens in a WinXP SP2 PC, i'm looking at it right now but i'm not so sure it happened in my other PC (Win2K) yesterday.
I never meet this problem, and I'm working on vista and xp pro. I will try to find someting on the net. Does it happen with other app ?
I haven't seen it in other apps. It just happens on my XP laptop. On my Win2K desktop PC it works fine. I'll try it again tomorrow. I'll delete everything and re-set it up to see what happens...

Also, another thing (you may have already noticed it). Create a database from mame. Open a rom path. Fix some things, then close and reopen the rom path. If you do that a few times, you'll see that the database size keeps increasing. Also, the process of adding a new rom path after a while becomes very slow. Perhaps a "compact database" command is needed...

EDIT: Never mind. CLEAN DATABASE. :oops: It will take some time to get used to the new stuff...
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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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RomCenter wrote:
Wanderer wrote:At first i assumed i had gone blind but that's not the case. Remember the bug where RC window was maximized but when closing and reopening RC, the window didn't appear at the top of the screen? It's back again. Funny though, it happens in a WinXP SP2 PC, i'm looking at it right now but i'm not so sure it happened in my other PC (Win2K) yesterday.
I never meet this problem, and I'm working on vista and xp pro. I will try to find someting on the net. Does it happen with other app ?
I haven't seen it in other apps. It just happens on my XP laptop. On my Win2K desktop PC it works fine. I'll try it again tomorrow. I'll delete everything and re-set it up to see what happens...
Well, indeed it happens. I've discovered that it happens only on my XP machine and only if the "Auto-hide the taskbar" setting is unchecked. If it is checked, it appears normally. I have the taskbar at the bottom and its height is twice the default because i also have several toolbars there. Decreasing the taskbar height does make a difference (the window gets closer to the border of the screen) but it still does not appear fully maximized.

This is really annoying because since the window-height is not equal to screen-height, the window becomes centered in the screen (not taking in mind the taskbar-height) and the status-bar hides under the taskbar so the status-bar info actually become invisible.
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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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Ok, thank you. I check the rc source code, and did some changes which could solve the problem. Wait for the next release to give a try.
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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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pnkiller78 wrote:I think I have found a bug...
I have some games uncompressed on folders, these games are mainly CD images dumped on RAW format (2352 bytes per sector), so their size varies from 300 MB to 750 MB, many times those CD came with audio track so the tracks are dumped on different files.
So, my issue is that there are some games in which the first rom (track) is not recognized, it appears in the datafile, the crc32 match the file on disk but RC doesn't see it and mark it in gray. In the previous version it was detected correctly.

Any idea??
Can you tell me which datafile, and which game ?
Download the IBM PC Compatible datfile from this site http://redump.org/.
Create a new database from datfile in RC, then after adding a rom path, in some games the first track doesn't get recognized, RC calculates the CRC, it match the one the datfile, but it got marked in as Unknow (gray).
Green games examples: Medal of Honor - Allied Assault - Spearhead (Expansion Pack) (U), One Unit Whole Blood (E) (v1.21), Return to Castle Wolfenstein (U), Rise of the Triad - Dark War (v1.2b)
Gray games error examples: Blood II - The Chosen (E) (v1.0), Deus Ex (U), Kingpin - Life of Crime (U), Soldier of Fortune - Platinum Edition (U), System Shock 2 (U) (v1.0)
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Re: RC3 RC1 - Issues

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pnkiller78, try again with the rc2 and tell me if it's fixed.
If not, tell me where and how to download a ibm pc iso, I can't manage to get it from redumps site... :oops:
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