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Suggestion for RC 3.32

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:52 pm
by denzilla
When I uncheck "create dummy roms" please make all romsets show green instead of yellow for the affected sets. Dummy roms will not create missing rom data and therefore add nothing other than to make the roms show green within RC. They're junk basically. If the real roms aren't dumped and all the roms MAME specifies are present, then the rom should show green.

Thanks :)

Re: Suggestion for RC 3.32

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:58 pm
by Wanderer
denzilla wrote:When I uncheck "create dummy roms" please make all romsets show green instead of yellow
I don't think it's a good idea to implement it like this. The "create dummy roms" have to do with the tasks performed in the "fix" process, you are talking about the color of the rom before or after "fixing".

I too believe it would be very useful to have such an option. I think i had asked for something similar myself when RC3 was still in beta. I have in mind two ways to implement what you're asking.

- One way would be to implement a new set of options while creating a new database: "ignore CHDs" and "Ignore samples". When these options are checked, RC will not add info for CHDs and samples in the database, so users that do not care about them will always have their roms green, even if CHDs or samples are missing. If the user changes his mind though, he would have to recreate the database, which is not that nice.

- Another way (the one i actually prefer) would be to have those two options ("ignore CHDs" and "Ignore samples") in Preferences. When these are checked, data for CHDs and samples will exist in the database but RC will just ignore them.

By ignore i mean it will
- either not show them at all or
- show them but will not take them into account when checking a zip file and deciding if it's red/yellow/green. The samples for instance, if missing, they will be shown as red inside the zip but the zip itself will have a green color.

I think the second way would be nice but i suspect it may be a little complicated to implement.

Re: Suggestion for RC 3.32

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:40 pm
by denzilla
How did the old RC 2x series do it? This was never an issue before 3x was released. Dummy rom creation should be removed entirely IMO. ClrMAME gave it up a few versions back and MAME doesn't complain at all in their absence.

Re: Suggestion for RC 3.32

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:00 pm
by Wanderer
denzilla wrote:How did the old RC 2x series do it?
The same way as RC3 does for bad dumps. I think RC2 ignored the samples when extracting the datafile from MAME, CHDs did not exist back then and as far as no/bad dumps, it followed the same procedure as RC3 does.

Indeed, maybe it is time to dump them. Perhaps they could be shown in the contents of the zip as red but the zip itself could be shown as green (like my suggestion in my previous post).

BTW, this issue has been discussed before, here.

Re: Suggestion for RC 3.32

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:01 am
by denzilla
You suggestion about making it red within the rom sounds good. Mark it "nodump" or "needs redump" as needed.

Yeah I know we went through this before, but I thought I would reignite the topic since it kinda fizzled out the first time :)