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what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:50 am
by angelus
hi all
i just got romcenter and iam on step three on the tutorial
http://forum.romcenter.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1866 and i also just got MameUI64 .136
now in mamui it has a list of 8000odd roms but i know i have way more roms than that though iam not sure if they will all work in mameui and also i want to only keep original versions of the roms i have i dont think i want hacks and other things.
how would it be best to go about this?
UPDATE: ok um wow i finished with step three and now all my roms are apprently grey
so i selected the rom path and seleted "fix" and going ot see what that does
ok so here the result:
---> 10783 Files tested in 0h 6m 51s
---> 0 Samples files fixed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Samples roms imported in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Samples files removed in
---> 0 Samples roms removed in
---> 0 Files renamed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Roms removed in 0h 0m 2s
---> 0 Roms renamed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Roms imported in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Dummies created in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Ghostgames created in 0h 0m 0s
--->Remove files: disabled
--->Rezip: disabled
---> 0 zip comments removed in 0h 0m 0s
---> Total files fixed: 0
---> Total roms fixed: 0
---> Corrupted files: 0
---> Total Execution time: 0h 6m 57s
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Green games : 1, yellow games : 18, red games : 8497
Ready
um so now what?
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:51 am
by Wanderer
Hello.
angelus wrote:UPDATE: ok um wow i finished with step three and now all my roms are apprently grey
RomCenter tutorial wrote:Gray is used when a specific file or rom does not exist in the database. Gray files are not valid games supported by the selected emulator version. They may be files containing special info about the roms or any other info but they are not part of the game. They may even be roms that are supported by older or newer versions of the selected emulator. If you wish, you can delete them and be sure the game will not be affected.
Most likely, your roms are either from a different emulator than the one supported by the database you created, or from a different version of the same emulator.
angelus wrote:so i selected the rom path and seleted "fix" and going ot see what that does
ok so here the result:
---> 10783 Files tested in 0h 6m 51s
---> 0 Samples files fixed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Samples roms imported in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Samples files removed in
---> 0 Samples roms removed in
---> 0 Files renamed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Roms removed in 0h 0m 2s
---> 0 Roms renamed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Roms imported in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Dummies created in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Ghostgames created in 0h 0m 0s
--->Remove files: disabled
--->Rezip: disabled
---> 0 zip comments removed in 0h 0m 0s
---> Total files fixed: 0
---> Total roms fixed: 0
---> Corrupted files: 0
---> Total Execution time: 0h 6m 57s
----------------------------------
Green games : 1, yellow games : 18, red games : 8497
Ready
um so now what?
Total roms fixed: 0 means that none of your roms was altered/deleted. That's good because the problem is probably somewhere else and it would be a pity to ruin your roms while trying to fix them.
Green games : 1, yellow games : 18, red games : 8497 tells us much. Having so many red roms (almost all of them) means you probably have a very different database than the actual roms you have. Most likely, the roms supported by the database are from a different emulator. Which emulator (and which version) is the database for? Which emulator your roms are for?
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:54 am
by angelus
hello
thank you for the reply and the explination
um well the roms i got came with goodnes 2.01 but i dont know what that is um and each rom is in a zip file and each zip has one file that is a *.nes file.
and also i have another collection of roms that are all a *.gen file that came with a emulater called fusion.
i hope this helps
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:17 pm
by Wanderer
angelus wrote:um well the roms i got came with goodnes 2.01...
and also i have another collection ... that came with a emulater called fusion.
Good, now we have a better idea what's going on. You need to have a separate datafile for each emulator and emulator version you wish to verify. Find 2 datafiles, one for goodnes 2.01 and one for the version of fusion you have, in order to create RC databases from them. I don't have any experience with these emulators, so try the links that exist in
this page. If you don't find anything there, try google. Perhaps someone else can give you more info on these emulators.
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:50 pm
by angelus
Wanderer wrote:angelus wrote:um well the roms i got came with goodnes 2.01...
and also i have another collection ... that came with a emulater called fusion.
Good, now we have a better idea what's going on. You need to have a separate datafile for each emulator and emulator version you wish to verify. Find 2 datafiles, one for goodnes 2.01 and one for the version of fusion you have, in order to create RC databases from them. I don't have any experience with these emulators, so try the links that exist in
this page. If you don't find anything there, try google. Perhaps someone else can give you more info on these emulators.
hello thank you for the reply
i found a datafile for the goodnes 2.01 and how i have this;
Status updated for 10783 items.
Green games : 10771, yellow games : 0, red games : 12
Updating fileslist
Query Paths list
Execution time: 0h 4m 28s
Ready
i did a fix and got this:
--->End fixing
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--->Test archives: disabled
--->Fix samples: disabled
---> 1 Files renamed in 0h 0m 3s
---> 11 Roms removed in 0h 0m 1s
---> 1 Roms renamed in 0h 0m 0s
---> 0 Roms imported in 0h 0m 1s
--->Create dummies: disabled
--->Create ghost games: disabled
--->Remove files: disabled
--->Rezip: disabled
---> 0 zip comments removed in 0h 0m 0s
---> Total files fixed: 1
---> Total roms fixed: 12
---> Corrupted files: 0
---> Total Execution time: 0h 0m 8s
----------------------------------
Green games : 10771, yellow games : 0, red games : 12
Query Paths list
Ready
so how i can play them right? or what? um how do i play them? cant i use mameui?
also the other collection i have that is called "FULL Sega Genesis-Mega Drive-32X (GoodGen 3.00)[GoodMerged]" i cant seem to find a datafile for that one
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:06 pm
by Wanderer
angelus wrote:...i found a datafile for the goodnes 2.01 and how i have this;
Status updated for 10783 items.
Green games : 10771, yellow games : 0, red games : 12
Since almost all roms are green, it seems the datafile you have is the correct one. Now all you need is an emulator to run them.
angelus wrote:so how i can play them right? or what? um how do i play them? cant i use mameui?
good
nes: Nintendo Entertainment System. This means you need an appropriate Nintendo emulator. I don't think these roms are compatible with mame.
A quick googling for "nes emulator" revealed
this link among others.
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:26 pm
by RomCenter
Wanderer, you're the best.
Making people happy even before I noticed the problem...
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:50 pm
by Wanderer
RomCenter wrote:
Wanderer, you're the best.
Making people happy even before I noticed the problem...
Just trying to help, when i have a few minutes.
Things have been pretty crazy in my life lately so there's not much free time...
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:14 pm
by angelus
hey there thank you ever so much for your help iam going to try a different bunch of emu's and see which i like best
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:55 pm
by angelus
woohooooooooooo i got them working now i used jnes and fceux emulators and they both pick up my controller yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy wooooooooooooooo hehe
ok one last question
now i got all these roms right but now i just want to keep copies of the original game, now how would i go about doing that with rom center i mean to tell it to only keep original and then delete all others? is that possible at all?
thank you ever so much.
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:05 pm
by Wanderer
angelus wrote:woohooooooooooo i got them working now
Great news. Glad i could help.
angelus wrote:now i got all these roms right but now i just want to keep copies of the original game, now how would i go about doing that with rom center i mean to tell it to only keep original and then delete all others? is that possible at all?
AFAIK, the only way to do that is to manually delete the roms you don't want from the datafile and then use it to create the database. However, wait a while from Eric to confirm it, just in case there is an easier way to do what you want.
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:50 pm
by angelus
ok great thanks so much for your help
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:24 am
by RomCenter
Go to preferences/romsests and check 'keep one rom per set' and see if it does what you want.
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:33 pm
by Facepalmer
WTF. If you download a bunch of NES and Mega Drive ROMs that say GoodNES and GoodGen, you're better off renaming them using the according GoodTools instead of RomCenter.
Re: what if i have more roms than are what in the dat file?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:27 pm
by C. V. Reynolds
No you aren't. Not if you want accuracy, anyway. Goodtools are outdated while a DAT system like No-Intro is constantly being updated for accuracy. Goodtools is good for maintaining a collection of hacks and bad-dumps, but for it lists many bad dumps as good dumps and vice versa and it is missing many modern ROM dumps. RomCenter is also open-ended and lets you deal with each ROM individually if you want to, and it is easy to use.
So, I say to use No-Intro dats in RomCenter for the best available dumps, and use Goodtools on anything that you would only find in a Goodtools database for the rest. Total victory would be achieved.
Facepalmer wrote:
WTF. If you download a bunch of NES and Mega Drive ROMs that say GoodNES and GoodGen, you're better off renaming them using the according GoodTools instead of RomCenter.